Thursday, July 19, 2012

Anyone want to join me in a (probably) pointless exercise of dissent?

I commented on Katha Pollitt's blog piece, "The 'New York Times' Misses the Mark on Inequality, Marriage," itself a comment on - yes - The New York Times's piece "Two Classes, Divided by 'I do'" which compared the lifestyles of two women who come from the same Midwestern, middle class background but whose lives diverged when they chose to have children in marriage and out of marriage.

Pollitt's position is that Jessica Schairer, mother of three, is a victim of a society that will not provide better solutions for her as a single mother.  I left a comment there.  It was almost immediately scrubbed.  SOBL1 also posted (before me, I believe).  Also scrubbed.  Fortunately, I had copied my response, and so I reposted.  I think they've left it up because several posters there have "educated me" as to the error of my ways and cold hearted villainy with their lengthy comments.  However, they took down SOBL1's second response, backing up a comment I made.

So, would anyone like to join me in this fun little effort to, at the very least, annoy some comments moderator  who may or may not be Katha Pollitt herself?  Comment here.

22 comments:

  1. Mine will probably get scrubbed but I've taken up your mission. They really don't understand that single motherhood is terrible for children.

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  2. Have you read Women Who Make the World Worse: and How Their Radical Feminist Assault Is Ruining Our Schools, Families, Military, and Sports?

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  3. Hey Grerp, it's me SOBL1. To add to your post. Grerp shared the link on twitter. I then commented in the evening pointing out how it all boiled down to her having a premarital child and the secondary effects. This was scrubbed by mid-morning the next day. I then left a comment (mrm27) paraphrasing my comment and mentioning the comment erasure.

    I then commented a 3rd time, which defended grerp as the blog host left the comment that wasted time discussing grerp's misunderstanding of the meaning of onus (eye roll + dismissive wanking motion), and mentioned how Sweden is a terrible comparison to the US due to its small size, commodity money and being all white. This too has been deleted.

    I have seen another comment deleted, which must be Scott's.

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    1. also, if you look at my profile, my blog is 28 sherman, cruise thru. I dont blog as much as I used to due to fatherhood.

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  4. grerp:

    I went there just now and left three comments. Who wants the over/under on when those comments will be scrubbed?

    All I can say is this:

    It is not my fault that Jessica Schairer had three bastard children. It is not my fault she made the same poor choice three times. It is not my fault that she has a difficult, low paying job and didn't finish college.

    Yet Katha Pollitt and her ilk demand that I open my wallet and subsidize Jessica Schairer's poor decisions.

    deti

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  5. Done, and happily. Figure I owe you for the pieces of advice I've squirreled away in the off chance I ever have daughters.

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  6. Thanks for joining me. It looks like most of those comment you left have now been deleted. I just left this message:

    "The integrity of this thread has been severely compromised by the fact that nearly all comments disagreeing with Pollitt have been deleted except for, interestingly enough, mine. Someone must be very threatened by free speech. I thought that was a core liberal right. Guess not."

    This really hacks me off. I have let people vociferously disagree and even personally attack me on this blog because I believe in free speech.

    Losers.

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  7. grerp:

    The commenters there aren't interested in free speech nor in honest debate. The truth hurts and offends them. Once again, here is the truth, because I know some of you are reading here:

    Regardless of what anyone thinks of Jessica Schairer as a human being (she might be a perfectly fine human being), she made poor decisions. She made the same poor decision three times. She brought a paramour into the house and had to call the cops to get rid of him.

    Jessica Schairer has exhibited poor judgment when it comes to selecting men to date, live with and have sex with.

    Yes, Schairer's babydaddy is a dirtbag. But unfortunately, that makes Schairer a woman who selected a dirtbag to make babies with. Three times.

    It's one thing to make poor decisions and then bear their consequences. It's quite another to demand that someone else, someone who had no involvement in those decisions, shoulder the consequences. Katha Pollitt and her ilk suggest and demand that I subsidize and pay for Schairer's poor decisions. I think that is unfair, unreasonable and unworkable. And it does not teach other future Jessica Schairers to avoid those bad consequences. In fact Pollitt's demand would encourage future Jessica Schairers.

    deti

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  8. *Grerp's Brute Squad +1*

    I left the following comment:
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    An informed woman is a powerful woman. That's why women everywhere need to know about the reality of their choices so they can live the lives they want rather than guessing in the dark. My sister is now married to a nice young man with a bright future that wouldn't be possible without our mom. When she was 16, my sister hooked up with this 21 year old married guy. Mom found out and put an end to it by force. She had me and my brother accompany her around any time she needed to go out.

    I feel so sorry for Jessica that she didn't have a parent or grandparent who would help like my mom did my sister. Blinding love is very common, and we all need friends and family looking out for our best interests. It's important that we realize that. So our daughters can learn from Jessica's pain.
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    And also replied to Grerps's and retsie's comments. I tried to disagree with as much a pro-woman stance as I could reasonably do. When they choose to remove said comment, hopefully that'll make them look all the more foolish.

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  9. If you read the comments, people defending Jessica and her single mom by choice crowd have repeatedly said 'at least she didnt have an abortion'. They are making the judgment that keeping the child alive is superior to abortion, implying that abortion is bad. Do you think they'd EVER allow someone of a different belief system to comment that abortion is a poor choice or a moral failing? No way in hell. This shows how sick the left lib mind is where they will alter their views to fit the argument of the moment.

    This higher educated class has allied itself with the victim coalition for the post-68 moment to be the handmaidens to the death of western civilization.

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  10. All of the comments on that liberal blog about abortion is feminist posturing. Most real pro-lifers (not fake ones) actually leave out-of-wedlock children at adoption centers or abandon them. Societies like ours where having sex with bad boys is better than boring beta providers have high use of contraception yet high abortion rates. How is that? It's because abortion is used as the ultimate contraception after sex with sexy man turned out badly. Too much sex I guess. Anybody want to call Sandra Fluke?

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  11. Most pro-lifers are intolerant of pre-marital (out of marriage sex) since they're typically Christian. No sex outside of marriage leads to no babies outside of marriage. That's why liberals are so cracy about abortion. They have a lot of sex but when the baby comes, they think "Let's abort the baby and hide our shame." I'm thinking "Just give up the baby for adoption and never touch him again. Or get married and repent of your sinful ways. You choose."

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  12. Done grerp. Commented on someone saying these single mothers should be paid a "living wage."

    "Living wage" = handout
    "Handout" = dependency

    Creating dependency doesn't help single moms. Also, the cold reality is that holding some people up as examples deters poor choices by others.

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  13. Liberals are retarded. They think that marriage is outdated and a regressive institution. They think it's just a piece of paper. They think that sex BEFORE/OUTSIDE of marriage is GOOD. But they freak out when a baby is born outside of marriage due to pre-marital/extra-marital sex? Come on... That ain't logical.

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  14. Grerp,

    Good to see you back!
    No-one should be beating the single mother about the head, yes. But there should be strong disapproval of her choices to discourage the next generation from making the same mistakes. This strategy is strangely missing from the proceedings. That I find astonishing and somewhat disconcerting.

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  15. Stop wasting your time commenting on blogs and WRITE A DAMN BOOK! I need something for my daughter. That is all. Love ya.

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    1. What should be the size, tone and focus of the book your daughter needs? It may already be out there. How old is she?
      I'm planning a book about the damage the sexual revolution did; it didn't occur to me, but writing it for a young reader might be a good focus.

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  16. My comment is that "Jessica" could find a man worth marrying simply by telling men she dates/courts that sex comes with marriage. Lots of louts will drop the idea when the price is increased.

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    1. A man worth marrying wouldnt bother with a "jessica". Shes blew out her marriage market value 3 kids ago and she wont settle for "anything less than she deserves"

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  17. The entire comments thread was indicative of a glaring problem in our society: the failure to make The Tough Decisions. No one wants to enforce rules on young girls as it's "stifling," no one wants to take young women aside and explain to them the long-term effects of OOW pregnancies and the downward spiral into poverty. Poverty? What's that? It can't possibly happen to meeeee.

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  18. Interesting discussion. It always makes me wonder when there's a great deal of people protesting that "no one would ever WANT to be on welfare!"

    I strongly suspect those making the statement have never once in their lives, left the suburbs.

    I was lucky enough at a very young age to be smacked with a double mugging: I bumped up into the next tax bracket and was suddenly making less than I was before I got a raise, and a coworker making the same crummy pay as I was with 3 illegitimate children who "just wanted another baby" and said "it would be ok because she could go on welfare." I looked down at my tax-raped paycheck, and looked back up at her, and became a conservative.

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  19. Holy shit, those comments are infuriating. It's like debating with a wall, all the facts in the world won't help when those fools won't listen.

    Also, what's with that woman constantly referencing France and Sweden?

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